I just watched a bit of "Jon and kate plus 8" (i was watching "medical incredible" about crazy deformities on discovery heath, so during commercials, the jon and kate show was on the next channel) and it was my first time actually seeing it.
My first thought? Kate's a bitch. She really talks down to her husband. And each time I saw it, for like 2 mins max, she did it again. Made me feel bad for the poor guy.
Maybe this isn't a good representation of her, as it could just be this episode, but ugh. I'm surprised we haven't seen them on Cops for Jon giving her a beatdown.
... Once (and still) Infertile, but still Schnarky as hell. This blog is dedicated to the daily ramblings from the mind of Nancy. It isn't about anything profound in the grand scheme of things, but it ~is~ about things in my life, schnarkiness always included. I have a second blog, listed in my profile, but the blogs will continue to remain separate.
"I'm aiming for heaven, but I'll probably wind up down in hell"
About Me
- nancy
- I am a 39 year old woman. I am the mother of two beautiful daughters and a handsome son. I am a career woman. As for my TTC world, it certainly doesn't seem like I am "infertile", but I fought for my pregnancies and my TTC/IF history is on the sidebar. I have two blogs, which are both listed in my profile. One focuses on my daily life - including IF, TTC, pregnancy, delivery and even some "children mentioned" posts. The second blog is ~soley~ posts directly about being the mother to my three children.
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My TTC History
- Jul 01 ~ married
- Jan 02 ~ First cycle off bcps and opk shows ovulation!
- Dec 02 ~ Went to pcp for RE referral
- Jan 03 ~ Testing commences. S/A perfect. HSG clear.
- Feb 03 ~ Lap #1. All clear.
- Apr 03 ~ Clomid cycle #1. BFN.
- May 03 ~ Clomid cycle #2. BFN.
- Jun 03 ~ Clomid cycle #3. BFN.
- Jul 03 ~ Supposed to be IUI#1, but we missed cd3 so natural cycle
- Aug 03 ~ BFP on C18.
- Apr 04 ~ Ella born.
- Oct 04 ~ decided to ttc #2 and went off minipill to see if I am ovulating. I am. Will start next month.
- Nov 04 ~ TTC#2 starts. BFP. Holy Crap. No freaking way. No way.
- Aug 05 ~ Allison born
- Oct 06 ~ IUD removed. TTC#3
- Jan 07 ~ Large cysts found.
- Feb 07 ~ Femara cyle #1
- Mar 07 ~ Started w/ RE. HSG #2 showed R tube blocked. S/A normal.
- Mar 07 ~ more cysts, up to 9cms.
- Apr 07 ~ more cysts, 3 @ 7-9cms.
- May 07 ~ IUI #1 cancelled due to more cysts
- Jun 07 ~ IUI #1 (take two) w/ Clomid. BFN.
- Jul 07 ~ HSS showed scar tissue in 70% of uterus. Diagnosed with Asherman's Syndrome. Uterine surgery #2
- Aug 07 ~ HSG #3 showed clear tubes.
- Aug 07 ~ IUI #2 w/ Femara. BFN.
- Sept 07 ~ Monitored w/ hCG trigger. BFN.
- Oct 07 ~ HSS #2 showed scar tissue in 30% of uterus. Uterine surgery #3.
- Dec 07 ~ HSS #3 showed tiny amount of scar tissue. Uterine surgery #4.
- Jan 08 ~ HSS #4 showed clear uterus.
- Jan 08 ~ IUI #3, C16. BFN.
- Mar 08 ~ IVF #1, Transfer Cancelled due to lining. Out of 15 eggs, 9 were mature and all 9 fertilized. I have named my 9 embryos "The Mod Squad" and they are in the freezer, waiting for mommy to be ready.
- Apr/May 08 ~ FET #1. C20. 4 embryos "The Fab Four" transferred on 5/05. BFP!!! Very Low Beta (15 at 11dp3dt) but the numers continued to double every 48 hours. Told it was "most likely not viable" and later "most likely ectopic" but we beat all the odds.
- May 16, 08 ~ 11dp3dt (4w0d), beta #1: 15
- May 19, 08 ~ 14dp3dt (4w3d), beta #2: 43
- May 23, 08 ~ 18dp3dt (5w0d), beta#3: 213
- May 27, 22dp3dt (5w4d), beta #4: 1,073
- Jun 08 - Ultrasound showed one heartbeat at 7 weeks.
- Jul 08 - Had CVS testing. Chromosomes are normal and it's a BOY!! EDD: 1/23
- Aug 08 - Jan 09 ~ High risk due to: 1) Velamentous Cord Insertion, deemed biggest risk 2) Previous Placenta Accreta 3) Previous rapid degraged placenta 4) IVF alone can create weak placenta 5) AMA - Advanced Maternal Age. -- All resulting in almost 30 u/s and lots of testing, which ended up saving my life.
- Jan 09 (38w0d) ~ Karl is born! -- Crazy 3 days in hospital. Manual version to flip baby from breech to head down, Labor, Delivery, Emergency surgery due to cord detaching from placenta, Scary heart issues from losing over 40% of my blood supply, and then a blood transfusion due to the extreme loss of blood. Whew!
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35 comments:
Yeah, I think she is pretty mean to him sometimes. But then I don't usually see myself on camera, so I can't really criticize!
I totally agree. I can not watch a whole episode because I want to strangle her. I do not get that people can follow her and think her word on parenting and relationships is like the bible.
or maybe she's not a bitch, he just allows her to walk all over him, so she takes full advantage. I know what you mean though, she orders him around like I've never seen before lol! I only WISH my hubby would listen to me that well haha!
But Denise, I know I'm a bitch a lot of the times! We usually judge those we know best, right? heh. Like I always say when I people watch, "I'm not saying I'm any better. They can turn around and judge me too, I'm cool with that!"
Oh she is totally mean to him, you should see the one where she gets mad at him for breathing!
That being said, if I was in her situation, I'd be much worse :)
Hahaha...she really is sometimes. If you watch from season one to now though, she's gotten much better about how she talks to him...and he's gotten a lot better about sticking up for himself.
I can't watch that show...she kinda gets on my nerves...but the kids are really cute!
I object to that show because it is one of many that glorify very very risky highest of HOM pregnancies- what doesn't get time on the discovery channel is the vast majority of such pregnancies where some or all of the babies die or are disabled. That's less pretty and doesn't rate so well.
And somehow I suspect that all the glossy press about the successes that you read in the media influences what people do when it comes to IUI's with lots of follicles and/or transferring lots of embryos.
But perhaps I'm cynical. Twins was high enough risk for me....
J
Wouldn't you need to be bitchy to get things done and get your point across with that many kids? I agree that she talks down to him, but it's more real than what I've seen with the Duggars, that family that has like 20 kids. That mom is way too sugary sweet all the time.
I think she actually is like that.. someone on babycenter posted this a while back it is a blog started by jons sister in law (i think)
http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/
I think 2 minutes is about the max I can take of that show. The kids are cute, but seeing their interaction can be painful!
Oh no..she is def a bitch! I watch is every Monday night.. I mean the frigin kids are cute as hell!
My Husband refuses to participate in watching that program becasue she is such a bitch. Anytime he catches me watching it he askes "So what is the bitch telling the woosy to do now?"
But you've got to imagine that they are getting paid rather nice for being portrayed like that..
Nope your right! i have seen a bunch of their episodes! she is very demanding and particular! she doesnt like the kids to get messy, she claims "you try doing all that laundry" which has its points BUT kids ned to get messy.. they arent aloud to have fun! no candy AT ALL! all kinds of stuff.. the DH is more Free loving type.. SO yah SHE def wears the pants!!
she is certainly a VERY specific personality. He also strikes me as being so passive. I watch teh show regularly and I remember an episode where they spoke about when they first started dating. I think he is several years younger and she states that she is most certainly the head of the family. very interesting dynamic...
I've only seen segments of a few of the shows, mostly because I agree with geohde. But I felt I should watch at least a little since Jon and Kate are from Pennsy. I'm from Pennsy. Pennsy reprasent. (I'm sorry, I'm guessing that won't make sense to anyone...)
Back on point: Nancy, I'm feelin' you. Crafty editing or not, she doesn't come across as a very nice person. What would I come across as with a house of 8? Not so sure. But I would hope that I would treat my husband with at least an ounce of civility. At least a few times so the camera could catch it. ;-)
HAH, you make me laugh. Yeah Kate is kind of a B sometimes and does talk down to Jon which is too bad because he seems like such an easygoing guy. I guess it works for them though. All I can say is my husband would not go for me talking to him like that.
Margriet (from WebMD TTC boards)
J - I agree with you. It's not good for people to think that high order multiples are common or safe to have. It is a miracle that they are all ok. They are cute kids! I agree that Kate is mean to her husband. You would think watching the show would make her try to be nicer... Makes me realize I need to try harder to be nice to my DH.
I cannot agree more. I used to really enjoy this show and I am now wondering if to "spice it up" the cameras are showing more of her being bitchy and pretty hard on Jon and the kids.
Either way, this show and Supernanny came of Tivo this month because I was getting annoyed with their responses to the kids.
LOL Everyone says she's a bitch but everyone watches.
I agree she is bitchy...but she's organized and I like that.
She's a nurse and a lot of medical fields are typically type A. I think it's the control freak from her nursing side.
Although when she yelled at him for breathing (b/c he had a cold) that was bitchy...but he toook it in stride..so apparently he's used to it. I guess. My DH gets sooo mad when I get bitchy.
And I agree about it "glorifying" the multiple thing...They are really lucky...when I do watch it, I don't see any early intervention services coming for the sextuplets.
Oh and the one twin Mady...she takes after mama!!
The first like 15 episodes of J&K+8 I watched, I felt the EXACT same way. She drove me INSANE. But then they both kind of started to grow on me - Kate for her controlingness (a word I just invented) and Jon for his lassiez-faire attitude about everything. I mean they work together I think. Plus with 8 kids, 6 of which are going through the same things, together, all the time, I supposed you'd have to be a bit neurotic, to cope.
That said, I almost had to change it last night, because she was at the height of her controlingness/bitchiness. I mean she was like YELLING at the kids to stop eating fruit. My thought: it's not like they were eating handfuls of chocolate. I was annoyed last night. Usually she's not so bad.
And I have to respectfully disagree with geohde on saying they "glorify very very risky highest of HOM pregnancies". They may make the best of the situation, now that they can say they have 6 very healthy 4 year olds, but I've heard both Jon and Kate say MANY times that they were a fertility nightmare, and that no one should aspire to do what they did. They were pregnant with 7 to start with, and the 7th never developed. Because of their belief system, they chose not to reduce the number of embryos. Their choice. But I don't think they glorify it.
I agree that she ~has~ gotten alittle better. but I also agree that she's a bitch. lol
I think Kate is a total control freak, which often translates into bitchiness. You can see it in everything from her neurotic housekeeping to the way she talks with her husband. Sometimes they laugh but it seems tense. I wonder if they are really happy.
He will dish it out as well, but he'll apologize for it. She won't. I know a lot of people who think she's just great, but I could never imagine talking to my husband like that... then again, I don't have 8 kids!
She is like that all the time! Every episode. He doesn't stand up for himself. He may just like that. She is so mean. Oh well. I just got over it and accepted it. She's very organized though.
She is certainly bitchy and demanding. I do watch on occasion, though. I'm with poltzie, the episode where she gets mad at him for breathing was pretty revolting. She also once called her sister-in-law on the phone in order to berate her for giving one of the kids a gum ball. She doesn't let the kids have any fun. When something gets messy or (Gasp, fun), she puts an end to it pronto.
Hee... I can't believe you have just now seen that show. But yeah, I think she is really mean to Jon. And her cleanliness thing when the kids are carving pumpkins or crafts scares me a little.
But I'm sure I have some yet-to-be-revealed weird parent thing...
We don't have cable. Sounds like I am missing out (or not)? :)
I keep hearing all this buzz about this show and it has me curious now.
Takes one to know one. Heh! You know I am kidding. Kind of!
I did catch part of the show last night and I was suprised at the extra bitchiness. I do however, really enjoy how drop dead honest they are with each other. I often wish I could be like that and say what I mean and mean what I say! She can be really mean but he often rolls his eyes and is shitty back which makes me laugh! I can't image what it must be like and the constant work involved with that many kids. I often think about what I would be like with that many kids and how everything you do is so much harder than having 3 or even 5 kids. 6 all the same age! I'd loose it. Hat's off to her and her incredible bitchiness/organization that keeps us watching. Heh!
My former sister-in-law spoke to (and about) her husband like that all the time. She constantly pointed out his shortcomings, compared him to her dad (who really is an amazing man and a hard act to follow), and discounted his opinions.
He became a lump of a man who just did what she said (with noticable reluctance) and sat on the couch a lot. Talk about a self-fulfilling prophecy... tell someone they suck, and they stop trying.
Notice the 'former' part? Yeah, he got tired of it. Rather than stand up to her, though, he cheated. Because he never gave her the feedback (or the opportunity to change), she has no idea that her meanness played a role in the split... she assumes it was all about the cheating.
I wish he had handled it differently, but... I wish she could understand how mean and horrible she sounded/acted. I hope that someone is brave enough to give her that feedback before she meets someone else.
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In totally other news, http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/ is written by Jodi's sister, apparently in response to Jodi being excluded from future shows. I read some of it, but it gave me the creeps... so much anger there.
nope wasn't just the episode i love that show but she's like that all the time. even when they had that night out without the kids she found ways to be a bitch toward him but many times he snaps back and those are the funny one lol
You are right. She's a total bitch to him. Not sure why he puts up with her...and he's usually pretty nice about it. I guess having 8 kids would make you a little bitchy, but DAMN, he's there to HELP. Don't be mean to him. He's kind of cute too. :)
I can hardly watch anymore. I just nit-pick everything she says. You think she would watch a few episodes and become embarrassed by her own behavior.
I just want to tell Jon he's not fat and give the poor guy a hug. Oh, yeah, and feed her kids cupcakes while they're wearing "good" clothes.
Im just now catching up on my reading and I COMPLETELY agree..kate is a bitch, and I've watched more than one episode to see if it was an anomaly or if she is Captain McBitchy, and she is. Ugh. And she seems good with the kids..and they are cute, but I can't stand her!
I'm catching up on some blog posts I haven't read yet, and I completely agree. I hate the way Kate talks to Jon. Those kids are going to grow up not respecting their dad if they hear the way she talks to him.
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